KCRW-FM, Which Way L.A.?, February 10, 2011 Host Warren Olney
http://www.kcrw.com/news/programs/ww/ww110210should_the_states_yo
“If the only concern is saving money, well, yeah, we could just put these young people into prisons. And that would save money in the short haul, but we’d be paid back in terms of higher recidivism rates and future violence.”