KQED-FM, May 16, 2011 Host Scott Shafer
http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201105160900
“I think that it’s time to get rid of the death penalty. When you look at the number of people who are on death row and the money that we spend, and the fact that we execute very few people … it’s just an expensive punishment that we don’t carry out and ends up being a false promise to victims.”