Ian Haney López interviewed on MSNBC, January 13, 2014
“In order for people to have a path out of poverty, and in order for the middle class to thrive, we need a government that’s geared towards helping the middle class, not a government geared towards helping the rich. But in order to have that, we need to stop being divided by race. And how are we being divided by race? We’re being divided by race by a new sort of racial rhetoric that operates in code.”